That by itself is a staggering display of rudeness. Because she has attended the church for years, she knows exactly what is going to be taught there, and so can hardly be truly surprised at it being taught. Yet she faithfully attends, and as faithfully makes such derisive and disruptive noises, so that no sincere person can get the full measure of that class.
But as the commercial says, "Wait! That's not all!"
Yeah, we'll also then get her playing the "Just asking" game. That's where you ask a question clearly designed to derail things, or sow dissension or plant seeds of doubt, but if anyone ever calls you on it, you were "Just asking". Then you can for extra points play the martyr and be like, "Well, if questions aren't allowed..." you know, like then the newcomers will get to think that we're all afraid of honest questions.
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It's a total farce, and the ONLY point of it is to destroy the efforts of the Great Commission in general, and the efforts of the church specifically.
Could it be honest questions after all? Am I judging too harshly? You tell me:
Teacher: So as we know, the Mark of the Beast is Sunday worship -
Velma: What scripture says that?
(Now, she knows that literally NO scripture "says" that, because she's not only a member, but is married to a guy who's on the Board of Directors of the church itself.)
Jane Doe: Well, it's the verse about buying and selling -
Velma: But does it say "Sunday worship"?
John Johnson: There's the verse that speaks of changing the times and days of things -
Velma: Which one says "Sunday worship"?
Okay. Any of that sound like an innocent newbie "just" asking so as to learn?
Of course not. Because she's not new. And clearly has done this and put others through it before. And is clearly not intending to be deterred from asking until someone finally admits that we know that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast due to the inspired understanding and teachings of Ellen G. White.
And sure enough, when someone finally says, "Ellen White shared in her book - " they'll be interrupted by a snort of derision and the dismissive comment of, "Ohhhh, Ellen White" in a tone dripping of sarcasm that once again she has "caught us" in some kind of lie.
And this is all in front of an audience of newer members still learning and prospective new members who will probably never seek baptism now.
This literally should NEVER be allowed to go on. After the first time, it should be clearly explained to her that the point of the Bible Study is for members and non-members alike to learn more about the scriptures and various insights that Ellen White and our church has had about those scriptures. That if she has literally any other concerns, she should save those for private.
And that snorts, sniffs and sarcasms have NO place in such a venue.
But wait - that's STILL not all!
Yes, in this Bible Study, we also get "Down Playing" where the shame game is played with the literal belief system of the church itself! This is where the name of Ellen White is only reluctantly mentioned, even though it is her actual book that is being read from, and you'll hear at least a half dozen times things like this:
"Remember, Ellen White never claimed to be a prophet!"
"Ellen White always said, follow the Bible, not her!"
"Ellen White one time in this one book said that she was not a prophet at all, but just a messenger!"
"Our church is only about the Bible, this isn't about Ellen White!"
"We must always remember, Ellen White was only a 'lesser light'!"
Holy Moly, I guess I don't have to lay awake in fear that any will ever forget that now! They would only need to attend this Bible Study once and they'd remember for the next five years, let me assure you! And if they're so ashamed of Ellen White, then no wonder "Velma" (not her real name) feels comfortable "just asking" poor Ellen into oblivion.
Yet here's the real deal - Ellen White was modest about her own role, as various prophets have been known to do, and she did say to compare her to the Bible and if there was any contradiction go with the Bible. Those are things that made her more inspired, and more to be seen as a reliable and trusted source. Not less.
Yet these sayings of hers are trotted out and used to diminish and down play her, and said as if she is some kind shameful secret that we want to assure all newcomers that we don't take seriously. It's very clear that the feel and mood is that we are to downplay her role, that we may be more perceived as one of the "mainstream" churches.
Well, we're not a "mainstream" church, Ellen G. White WAS a prophet, and we are the remnant church that is special. True, others from other churches will have salvation, but it will be due to coming out of those churches, or because they perhaps were never exposed to the light and thus are judged differently to take that into account.
We do not need to hide this from new members and potential new members. It is not the job of the Bible Study of a Seventh-day Adventist church to rush to assure people with that Ellen is fallible and no big deal. Heavens, you could go your whole life in other churches and never hear anyone even mention Ellen White, let alone pan on her, so why should we be doing that?
"For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?" is the scriptural question to focus on here. You may look that up in 1 Corinthians 14:8. If we are not proud of Ellen White and believing in the wisdom her inspired insights, how can we expect others to be?
And let us make NO mistake here - without Ellen G. White, there is no Seventh-day Adventist church. Bible verses, in the Old and New Testament, are subject to varying interpretations by varying men and women in various faiths and denominations. Good and honest people can disagree on various verses and the question then arises, "How are we to know which interpretation is correct?"
That is then one of the reasons that God blesses us with a prophet in the first place, that we may receive some guidance on those matters. IS the Mark of the Beast Sunday worship? Or is it your Social Security card? Or is it bar codes? Or wait, it's the microchip, right? Some churches say one thing, some say another, I saw online that it was - see what I mean?
Ronald Wilson Reagan - six letters in each name, 666! Was he then the Beast? Or is it the Pope? Or was it Obama? Trump? James K. Polk? Vladimir Lenin? Beaver Cleaver?
You can find some to claim any of those names. But who is the Beast? What is the Mark? Look for an exact answer in the Bible in vain, you will NOT find it, thus PROVING the great need of a prophet for the end times.
Good news! Our church has such a prophet, or "inspired messenger" or "lesser light". And she's wrote lots of nice books helping shed light on these matters! And it is for THAT reason that people attend a Bible Study at our church, to learn of those scriptures and to learn of those insights!
So here's me "just asking" that we remember that truth for each and every Bible Study, and that we "down play", for a change, the dissension and dispute that mars the bringing of a person to the salvation of Christ our Savior!





